Difference between ~につれて and ~にしたがって

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The difference is not large, but there are cases where one sounds more natural than the other. XにつれてY does not strongly assume ... JapaneseLanguageStackExchangeisaquestionandanswersiteforstudents,teachers,andlinguistswantingtodiscussthefinerpointsoftheJapaneselanguage.Itonlytakesaminutetosignup. Signuptojointhiscommunity Anybodycanaskaquestion Anybodycananswer Thebestanswersarevotedupandrisetothetop Home Public Questions Tags Users Unanswered Teams StackOverflowforTeams –Collaborateandshareknowledgewithaprivategroup. CreateafreeTeam WhatisTeams? Teams CreatefreeTeam Teams Q&Aforwork Connectandshareknowledgewithinasinglelocationthatisstructuredandeasytosearch. Learnmore Differencebetween~につれてand~にしたがって AskQuestion Asked 8monthsago Active 8monthsago Viewed 322times 2 AsIunderstandit,they'resynonymsexcept~にしたがってismoreformal,butinShinKanzenMasterBunpôN2itsays: 「~につれて」は一方方向の変化の場合にだけ使う。

「~にしたがって」は一方方向の変化でなくても使える。

Thethingisthattheexamplesthatappearinthebookwith~にしたがってfitwithwhatIunderstandasan一方方向の変化,soIdon'tknowiftheyjustdidn'tchoosethebestexamplestoshowthedifference,orifI'mnotunderstandingtheconceptof一方方向の変化correctly.Thetwoexampleswith~にしたがってare: 車のスピードが上がるにしたがって、事故の危険性も高くなる。

And: 息子は成長するにしたがって、口数が少なくなった。

Cansomeoneexplainmethedifferencebetweenthosetwostructures,orshowmeanexampleinwhichonly~にしたがってwouldbecorrectandwhy? grammarword-choice Share Improvethisquestion Follow editedMar13at15:38 Chocolate♦ 66.5k55goldbadges8989silverbadges187187bronzebadges askedMar13at12:58 FernandoFernando 49522silverbadges1010bronzebadges Addacomment  |  2Answers 2 Active Oldest Votes 4 Thedifferenceisnotlarge,buttherearecaseswhereonesoundsmorenaturalthantheother. XにつれてYdoesnotstronglyassumecause-effectrelationships.ItcanbeusedwhenXandYchangealmostindependentlyovertime.Xに従ってYismoreexplicitonthecause-effectrelationship,andthuspreferredintechnicalcontexts. XにつれてYisusuallyusedwithtemporalchanges.(Timeisirreversible,somaybethisiswhat一方向の変化inyourtextbookisreferringto?)Ontheotherhand,Xに従ってYhasawiderrangeofusage. Forexample... 夜が近づくにつれて、ますます雨が強くなってきた。

Asnightapproached,therainbecameheavierandheavier. Inthissentence,つれてismorenaturalbecausethereisusuallynodirectcause-effectrelationshipbetweennightfallandrainfall.Butifthereisanapproachingtyphoonmentionedinthecontext,夜が近づくに従ってwouldsoundfine,too. 統計によると、英語を学び始める年齢が若くなるに従って発音も正確になる。

StatisticsshowthattheyoungeronestartslearningEnglish,themoreaccuratehis/herpronunciationbecomes. Inthissentence従ってismorenaturalbecausethisisanacademic-soundingsentenceand"startingage"itselfisnotsomethingthatchangesovertime. 息子は成長するにしたがって、口数が少なくなった。

Inthissentence~につれてand~にしたがってaremostlyinterchangeable,butしたがってsoundslikethespeakerisawareofthefactthatboystendtobecomemoresilentastheygrowup. Share Improvethisanswer Follow answeredMar14at3:32 narutonaruto 251k1212goldbadges272272silverbadges524524bronzebadges 1 Thanksalot!Ithinkit'smuchclearernow. – Fernando Mar14at17:22 Addacomment  |  3 It'swellexplainedhere.Idon'tthinkthere'sadifferencebetweenthetwoaslongastimeevolutionisconcerned,meaninginyourexamples,youcanuseboth〜につれてand〜にしたがって.Animportantdifferenceis〜にしたがってcanalsomean"basedon"or"accordingto"(asdefinedin意味②onthepageabove),e.g.ルールにしたがって(=followingtherules).Ifthisisnotwhattheymeantwith"一方方向の変化でなくても使える",Idon'tknowwhattheywantedtosay. Share Improvethisanswer Follow editedMar13at15:39 Chocolate♦ 66.5k55goldbadges8989silverbadges187187bronzebadges answeredMar13at15:23 sams-studiosams-studio 49022bronzebadges 1 Thanksalotforyouranswer! – Fernando Mar14at17:21 Addacomment  |  YourAnswer ThanksforcontributingananswertoJapaneseLanguageStackExchange!Pleasebesuretoanswerthequestion.Providedetailsandshareyourresearch!Butavoid…Askingforhelp,clarification,orrespondingtootheranswers.Makingstatementsbasedonopinion;backthemupwithreferencesorpersonalexperience.Tolearnmore,seeourtipsonwritinggreatanswers. Draftsaved Draftdiscarded Signuporlogin SignupusingGoogle SignupusingFacebook SignupusingEmailandPassword Submit Postasaguest Name Email Required,butnevershown PostYourAnswer Discard Byclicking“PostYourAnswer”,youagreetoourtermsofservice,privacypolicyandcookiepolicy Nottheansweryou'relookingfor?Browseotherquestionstaggedgrammarword-choiceoraskyourownquestion. FeaturedonMeta PleasewelcomeValuedAssociates#999-BellaBlueϩ-SalmonofWisdom Nowlive:Afullyresponsiveprofile Related 23 Whatistherealdifferencebetweentheproperuseofthewordsさむいandつめたい? 1 Helpmeunderstandthegrammarofthissentence:~のこと~のこと、~なってもらえたかな 2 Differencebetweenのにandというのに 5 Sentencesendinginて 3 KanzenMasterN1QuestionHelp-ほどのことではないvsほどには当たらない 2 Directobjectsofmotionverbsandhelpwiththedifferencebetweenをandに 7 Fullyunderstandingthedifferencebetweenもうand-たことがある 0 Whatwouldbethedifferencebetween書こうand書きようwhenusedinthissentence? 2 あからさま:differencewith明らかanditsconnotation HotNetworkQuestions HowcanIapplyPhotoshop'spixelaspectcorrectiontomakeit"real"? Whatisa'mod'inthemoviePebbleandtheboy Howdoisetthegraphtohavethisshape? TraveledonaninvalidESTAduetopriorNKoreatrip.HowscrewedamI? WhatsamplingfrequencyshouldIuseifNyquistisnotavailable? Dothe3mainTopazappsreallydodifferentthings? Addingwormstoclaysoil-worthit? "Temporarynew"MacOSinstallationfortestinginmyownmachine Iamanexpertintwofields.ShouldImake2CVsorone? WhydoobjectpronounsprecedethepredicateinFrench,whileR-expressionsfollowit? Whatdoyoucallthefloor-levelspacethatallowssomeonetotraversefromonefloortoanotherwithstairs? Howtorestoreabrokensudoersfilewithoutbeingabletousesudo? HowcanIdistinguishbetweenafull7thchordanda7thchordwithouta5thinfiguredbass? Whydodoctorsaskforyourrace? "Wedon'tinstall..."or"Wedidn'tinstall..."? WhydidDumbledoreaskMcGonagalltobringFangbeforequestioningCrouch? Themeaningof"byaboutastreetandthree-quarters" HowisTheCulture'suniversepopulatedbyhumansifcurrenthumancultureonearthexistscontemporaneouslywithit? HowisCaptainAmericaabletowieldMjölnirexpertlyinEndgame? Iteratedlogarithmsinanalyticnumbertheory Can'tremoveTeXinfo HastheUKenactedanychangesinlawsthatwould'vebeenimpossiblewhilebeinganEUmember? Fastestpossibledrivetrain? WhydoAmericanschoosewirenutsoverreusableterminalblockslikeWagooffers? morehotquestions Questionfeed SubscribetoRSS Questionfeed TosubscribetothisRSSfeed,copyandpastethisURLintoyourRSSreader. Yourprivacy Byclicking“Acceptallcookies”,youagreeStackExchangecanstorecookiesonyourdeviceanddiscloseinformationinaccordancewithourCookiePolicy. Acceptallcookies Customizesettings  



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